How not to overclock a PC....

[phill-type-r]

Well have a look and tell me what you think!! :hysterical:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5393904704265757054

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1999499897470398424

Makes me laugh... :hysterical:

[huxley]

Can't believe they took the hsf off

Going to build myself a pretty sweet system in the next week or two :cool:

[phill-type-r]

Conroe??

[Numpty]

Both looked fake to me. I've run a CPU without a heatsink before (yes, it was a stoopid mistake!) and it just died with a puff of smoke. The CPU would've died long before removing the heatsink since it wasn't clamped and the fan wasn't spinning. And why have the PC in the garden? Cos the fireworks would have caused a mess in the house!?! Nice spoof though. :cool:

Oh, and never put water on an electrical fire! Be safe people. :biggrin:

[huxley]

Conroe??

Ooh almost, a kentsfield :wink:

Here's the spec list abeit with some parts from my current pc

INTEL CORE 2 QUAD PRO Q6600
TEAM XTREEM 4GB DDR2 PC2-8000C5 1000MHz
TITAN AMANDA TEC FAN
EVGA NFORCE 680I MOTHERBOARD
BFG GEFORCE 8800 GTX OC2 768MB
32" TOSHIBA 32WLT66 HDTV LCD
250GB SAMSUNG SPINPOINT SATA2
600W ENERMAX NOISETAKER 16X NEC 3540A DL DVD
COOLERMASTER CM STACKER CASE
WIN VISTA ULTIMATE

[phill-type-r]

I think it was set up, but still a bit of a laugh to watch :smile:

[phill-type-r]

Ooh almost, a kentsfield :wink:

Here's the spec list abeit with some parts from my current pc

INTEL CORE 2 QUAD PRO Q6600
TEAM XTREEM 4GB DDR2 PC2-8000C5 1000MHz
TITAN AMANDA TEC FAN
EVGA NFORCE 680I MOTHERBOARD
BFG GEFORCE 8800 GTX OC2 768MB
32" TOSHIBA 32WLT66 HDTV LCD
250GB SAMSUNG SPINPOINT SATA2
600W ENERMAX NOISETAKER 16X NEC 3540A DL DVD
COOLERMASTER CM STACKER CASE
WIN VISTA ULTIMATE

If I may make a few suggestions?? :smile:

Try the PC9200 stuff from OC Z, massive overclock potential and only £124 for 2Gb I think (special offer on Overclockers...)

I hear some weird things about the 680I boards, so be carefull with those :smile:

You might want a more powerful PSU, I've 520W and I'm running out of power...

I'd personally stick with XP Pro or XP 64 Pro.. Vista seems a waste of time because of the driver support or lack of...

Cooler if I recall is a massive sod, but try and find the Thermalright Ultra thingy.. its got 6 heat pipes and its the best air cooler out there I think.. Anandtech did a review a while back, very good read :smile:

Consider a bigger hard drive as the value isnt there with the 250Gb :wink:

Where are you getting the 32" monitor from?? That would kill my eyes if I used that!! :hysterical:!!

Nice system mind :smile: Oh and the reviews say that the overclocked graphics cards arent worth the money as you can overclock the standard ones as fast as the overclocked ones :wink: If that makes sense!! :hysterical:

[huxley]

9200 isn't needed ive seen people hit silly overclocks on c2d by using just pc6400 plus my memory runs lower voltages than most as they use uber expensive micron chips :wink: plus its cheaper than most on ocuk

the 680i boards wont clock a quad hence why mine is currently in rma but i should get the newer revision which will be fine :wink:

600w noisetaker is plenty enough it not just the outright wattage but the quality of the psu mines is a top brand, a 485w noisetaker handled this setup

im running vista atm and all thing running on it are covered for drivers and running far better than xp :wink:

btw win xp64 is meant to be a mare not far off win me for instability and issues

True the weight can be an issue with the amanda tec but it's performance makes it worthwhile plus you can strap the thing to the case anyway

As for the gfx card not so with the nvidia 8 series...with the 7800gtx yes you had headroom for more but nowhere near as much with the newer ones and there isn't that much of a price difference so imo it was worthwhile :cool:

[phill-type-r]

Agreed lower spec'd memory can work just as well, but then I think you still pay for the extra speed depending on make of memory..

Normally that could be a simple bios update rather than a new board, but all the best with that :smile: I have a Abit AW9D-Max and its awesome :smile: Makes my E6600 overclock to 4Ghz no problems :biggrin:

I would still suggest a bigger PSU because I know my OC Z is a great PSU and the W's dont mean a heck of a lot compared to some of the crappy PSU's but the more power the more future proof the PSU would be because the quad core and also that big graphics card. I agree its no ATI X2900 card, but never the less, I'd get something bigger :wink: Thinking of a 800W minimum for my upgrade...

A friend up north has XP 64 and swears by it and not at it (weird cos its Microsoft coded... :hysterical:) My experience so far, Vista sucks, so I'm sticking with XP Pro Service Pack 1A :smile:

Its not so much the weight of the heatsink, the Thermalright heatsink is actually a better heatsink!! :lol:

If the graphics card wasnt that much different, would have gone for the water model instead :wink: Shame thats £529 on its own!! :eek:

[phill-type-r]

Just a review I think you might like to read...

http://www.anandtech.com/printarticle.aspx?i=2981

[huxley]

The psu will be more than adequate for this system as ive said a mate tried is lesser model and it handled it very well

He is also an msce gold certified it tech so agrees with me about xp64 being a mare plus a friend who always changes his os never goes near it :biggrin:

I bought the tec not just for the overall cooling performance but for noise levels on high setting with a fan that thermalright becomes very noisy plus the tec bar water and vapo can cool below ambient air temps

The reason why the tec doesn't seem to cool any better is because they don't push the cpu far enough to test it

http://www.driverheaven.net/reviews/Titan%20Amanda%20Cooler/ (http://www.driverheaven.net/reviews/Titan%20Amanda%20Cooler/)

Well if i was going for the water card i might as well have gone for the ultra 8800 instead :wink:

http://www.tech-pc.co.uik/forum

[phill-type-r]

I'm still on XP Pro Service pack 1A and I'm not upgrading yet!! :smile:

The thermalright doesnt actually come with a fan, so it would be a case of whatever you put on it. If you put a Vantec Stealth or something on there, it would be quiet but it would cool very well :smile:

All depends on the CPU. If it dont overclock very well, its pointless to try and push it any further. Mine takes a miniminal voltage jump to overclock 1Ghz. But when I try to go past that mark, it takes 0.2V to get it to be stable at 3.6Ghz, which just gets too hot under a full load.

I dont think personally, for the extra speed the Ultra 8800 gives, I would bother buying it, the GTX 8800 seems perfect for pretty much any resolution and that would do me just fine :) I'm thinking of selling my Geil PC6400 ram, the Coolermaster Stacker 830 case I have and my OC Z 520W PSU so I can buy something a little bigger so I have more than enough power in reserve :wink:

If your going to use a water cooling setup or a Vapo setup, that would be the next major step in overclocking. Would love to try overclocking under a Vapochill. A friend in St Austall, has a Vapochill system for sale but you need the gasket kit. I'll cool down to -50C under idle and I think roughly, -30C with a full load on the CPU.. I'd love to have one just for the temps but also to see if I could push my E6600 past the 4Ghz mark once more.....

[huxley]

hmm i like vapo but condensation would have me worried the new intel cpu's clock incredibly well infact it's usually the fsb that's the limiting factor hence my choice in mb it's meant to be good for 500fsb very few can dream of making this figure

only thing im watching is the memory it seems quite a few sticks have been dying in random setups so i think the manufacturers have been pushing them too far

io ran xp service pack 2 and bar the odd lockup it was great vista covers near everything i need except for peerguardian but i can wait

as for the tec several reviews suggest the more cores you have the more it'll come into it's own and on dual core setups it really does spring into life keeping an overclocked dual presshot extreme at 42 degrees load very impressive

[phill-type-r]

I dont think the Quad cores mind, are meant to overclock as well as the Dual cores, but its only from what I've read online, so no personal experience... Not yet anyways :wink:

I wouldnt worry about a 500 FSB just yet, see how good the CPU overclocks first :wink: Wont matter if the board could do a 1000FSB, if the CPU dont wanna know past 350 or something, it aint gonna matter much at all!! :wink:

So far, my Abit board has managed 446 I think, but I've not pushed it further.. That was with it on its standard multiplier mind... I've not bothered lowering it as my memory doesnt overclock all that well (hence the higher speed stuff...) but I aint complaining :smile: It will sit at 401FSB all day long, which gives me 3.6Ghz, more than enough :smile:

Here's a review I think you might be interested in :

http://www.anandtech.com/printarticle.aspx?i=2921

I'm unsure if thats the exact same model you've got, but might be worth a look :smile:

If you wanna chat PC's I've got MSN and AOL and even Yahoo so please gimme a shout!! :smile: Its nice to be able to talk PC's with someone, even if that sounds geeky as hell!! :hysterical:

[phill-type-r]

Thought this might help you mate :smile:

http://ramlist.infinityx.nl/ddr2/

[huxley]

well the cpu should do about 3.5ghz give or take but then i have 4 cores so have far less to worry about :wink:

lol that monsoon is near damned identical to mine even the board hmm maybe titan built them but allow them to be renamed by other parties and as you can see the further you pushed the cpu the harder the tec worked they step like this to keep voltage draw and condensation to a mininum

However the noise on the amanda wasnt that bad so maybe they used different fans i do know there are rubber grommits on the backing of the fans to keep the noise down

it will certainly be interesting once i get it all up and running

thanks for the memory list i assumed right in that my memory was micron d9 good job it runs lower voltages than most :cool:

[phill-type-r]

I hope you get all your wanting from your new PC, it will certainly be a beast :biggrin:

Personally, I'd have gone for the Thermalright Extreme heatsink and just put a quiet 120mm fan on it.
I'm thinking of changing my Zalman 9700 to have one, as it would better the temps by a fair way by the looks of it and it would also allow me to overclock a bit further :wink:

I think I did post up the review of the TEC model so hopefully that might give you some idea. I personally wouldnt like the idea of 1Kg sitting on my CPU and even more so when its stood upright!! I'd be worried it would snap off!! :hysterical:

Please feel free to post up results etc... By the hardware your putting together, I'd say your a gamer and that you might do the odd bit of video work :smile: Just like me :wink:

That memory list is a great thing to have, found it from another site and would recommend anyone looking at it before buying.. Shows you what memory is good and worth the money :smile: