View Full Version : Gavo's Scoob......
Agent Smith
16-04-2006, 22:27 16
still will not start......she's turning...coughing....occasional pop.....we have fuel,spark.coilpacks are ok......plugs are fine......earthing fine.........she seems to keep flooding......any suggestions????
even got a mate to pop in with his identcal car to see if theres anything we have missed..........:annoying_cut:
Agent Smith
16-04-2006, 22:44 40
could be electrical.....
Agent Smith
16-04-2006, 23:28 47
gone through it all bud.......thinkin bout tryin my ECU next!!....
does gavo`s have a mappable ecu? if not then surely it won`t work, may be worth getting that identical scoob to Gav`s back down and trying the ECU from that
Agent Smith
16-04-2006, 23:38 57
worth a go but would thought if it is putting in fuel and spark it would be a mechanical prob. It is however much easier to swap an ecu then to check the timming marks or pull off the rocker/heads to check it.
Sounds like a good call to me
thats what i thought......
stock ecu..
what year is Gavo`s car mate, think it was 99 mdel at the earliest that had the mappable ECU`s
Agent Smith
16-04-2006, 23:45 38
92/93rex
From talking to chris at WRC the other week its quite unlikely that your ECU will fit/run Gavo`s engine without at least changes to the loom mate
Agent Smith
16-04-2006, 23:49 16
will try anythin at mo mate......you know what its like.......
i know mate but like i said, if theres any chance you could get hold of the Ecu from your mate that let you check his today you`ve got a lot more chance of it fitting
Agent Smith
16-04-2006, 23:54 29
he's ringin me tomorrow,so will see what we can do........
are u sure you havent mixed up any of coil pack leads, i think that may be hard to do tho as they are cut to the correct lengths
another idea, would be to have a look at the idle control valve, that may would cause the characteristics you described, (its the thing bolted to the back pasenger side of the inlet manifold).
the should be 2 bolts on the top of it, which holds a magnet thing to it, mark the position of this, then remove it and check the rod sticking up under it moves free, if it sticks then it could be stuck in the closed position thus blocking the air supply.
you can also hold the rod under it with ya had and get a mate to start the engine, that way you can controll the idel speed with ya hand.
well thats my wild guess anyway, GOOD LUCK http://bbs.scoobynet.co.uk/images/smilies/smile.gif
And this was the bit that was getting abit warm Ed.
Agent Smith
17-04-2006, 00:14 58
well.... bugger me.......had feelin it wern't right..
Agent Smith
17-04-2006, 00:20 40
thats what it did.......did run on the key for a short while!!....
which would b y it keeps flooding al petrol and no air cos it fire first tunr then nothing but the smell of petrol.
Agent Smith
17-04-2006, 00:23 49
gotta be the prob!!!....
got to be worth alook,not much else left apart from strip it down again.
Agent Smith
17-04-2006, 00:29 37
for sure bud.......best wait to see if we hear from Malc...
yeah he should be able to put his finger on it
Agent Smith
17-04-2006, 00:32 41
if he can't Ade'll break it!!!.......:hysterical: :hysterical: :hysterical:
Agent Smith
17-04-2006, 00:33 51
Can't remember but I think when you do an ecu reset while the ignition is on that thing makes a clicking noise but I may be wrong
we've had plenty of that.......
whilst goin through the fauly test.......relays clicking aroud the engine bay..
Gavo's slave
17-04-2006, 18:09 55
Still here!
Now running on Key...very slow progress...ANYONE, ANYIDEA'S PLEASE!!
Agent Smith
17-04-2006, 18:13 54
runnin or fireing??
Agent Smith
17-04-2006, 19:05 21
think i'll have to ring them.....
it runs whilst the key is in the fire positoin.:-ie start position,turn,engine runs,release key,engine stops....
Agent Smith
17-04-2006, 19:39 03
yeah mate...........its the idle control valve!!!!
Agent Smith
17-04-2006, 19:43 28
its out.........makes a difference.....2 screws in the top stuck!!!
Agent Smith
17-04-2006, 19:59 29
thats what he's doin.....everything else is fine,appart from that!.
Agent Smith
17-04-2006, 20:15 13
think most of us are!!......
Agent Smith
17-04-2006, 20:25 25
will probably pop over there tomorrow n see how its goin/assist.
things are looking up it ran for at least 20secs,just hope that wen i put another idle control valve on there are no more probs.
Agent Smith
17-04-2006, 21:35 31
ringing Rob in the morn bud...
Agent Smith
17-04-2006, 21:47 57
if i have my way...it'll be on the road tomorrow....
Well if this dont sort it,will be taking it out and starting again.
Agent Smith
17-04-2006, 21:53 51
fair play...this time your not doin it on your own..or should i say if you have to!!!...
Cheers Ed i owe you big time
Agent Smith
17-04-2006, 21:55 57
its fine mate...
Agent Smith
17-04-2006, 22:10 50
oi!!!!!!!!
Agent Smith
17-04-2006, 22:16 25
ben......:getmecoat:
:sign0006:
who threw the monkey a banana.
Agent Smith
17-04-2006, 22:18 05
who threw the monkey a banana.:lol:
Agent Smith
17-04-2006, 22:24 25
accepted...:lol: :lol: :lol:
Agent Smith
17-04-2006, 22:26 23
your bed and all that lou!!!...
sorry
Agent Smith
17-04-2006, 22:29 58
:action-smiley-060: :action-smiley-060: :action-smiley-060: :hysterical: :hysterical:
Gavo's slave
17-04-2006, 23:45 24
Well this is our piston DEAD may i say so wont be selling this one pmsl.
And now I know Y it wont start check out the body in the background with the marigolds on lol
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Gavo's slave
17-04-2006, 23:47 27
wat the piston or the woman
Gavo's slave
17-04-2006, 23:57 00
better in pretty barbie pink but best thing is ive helped with lots of ideas ask ed and i learnt alot ty gavo for letting me play brum brums
Gavo's slave
18-04-2006, 00:00 15
cheeky monkeys u men never give up wait til i post the next pic.Have got nother pic of conrod that shows that the piston had melted dwn the rod.
Gavo's slave
18-04-2006, 00:04 59
yes but very lucky it didnt go in score the barrel just left tiny mark at top so i got me slaves nail file out and gave it a good old rub dwn.Joking all got fine paper
Gavo's slave
18-04-2006, 00:11 42
luckily it the fragment of piston was caught behind the rings,did not even brake either rings but did split the oil seal :annoying_cut: :43: god sue u no so much lol
Well the good news is it runs.......but the bad news is the engine has got to come out AGAIN got oil p***ing out from behind the fly wheel :mad0213: ,so think im gonna look for another engine as i really cant be arsed to strip it all down again.
Not what one likes to hear....:frown: :frown: :frown:
Gavo's slave
19-04-2006, 21:22 27
nor can I it so typical and im Now so Depresed it hurts :sad-smiley-046: :getmecoat:
Tonydatiger
19-04-2006, 22:03 16
Crankseal?
got to be there aint nothing else behind there which means i've got to split the block again and i really cant be arsed just so p***ed off with it now.
Tonydatiger
20-04-2006, 17:07 10
Hang in there mate, things will get better!
Phoned subaru and all i have to do if it is the crankshaft seal is pop the old 1 out and push the new 1 in dont have to split the block which is good news.
Agent Smith
21-04-2006, 15:02 45
a bit of good news at least
Phoned subaru and all i have to do if it is the crankshaft seal is pop the old 1 out and push the new 1 in dont have to split the block which is good news.
Just gearbox out then.....:smile:
would it be easier just to drop the gear box then bob??
Would make life easier at least i could turn it over then with the fly wheel off just to see if it is coming out of the crankseal or not and would save me £30 on the engine hoist for a day.
Must be the first job just to remove gearbox clutch and flywheel. Should see leak then If its just crankseal pop another in...:cool:
I just wish it was as easy as it sounds.cant be easy to that get the gearbox out cos it means drive shafts have got to come out aswell,surely it would be quicker to unbolt the engine and just lift it enough to work on it.I have no idea about taking the box out.
http://www.ashlyn.plus.com/projects/flywheellessengine.jpg
Scoobyclinic had my gearbox out and new clutch fitted and gearbox back within the hour...:cool: Of course they remove boxes all day long and are set up for it. But to remove engine for clutch flywheel or crankseal is just going over the top. Removing the gearbox is much easier than the engine...
I see so just cat pipe off then and the shafts just pop off do they.was that just on axle stands bob???
so thats a day for me then and it must have been on a ramp.
Car was on hoist with wheels free. Think there is a clip that holds the shafts in. When removed they spin the wheel so the shafts just pull out. Do not remember them removing downpipe but center section was removed and one small cross member. To be honest I walked to the store picked the type of clutch I wanted and when I returned 20 mins later the gearbox was on the floor.:eek:
The only problem I had after was the gearbox seal it started leaking. Same as Cranshaft seal but on back of gearbox. that took um 15 mins to do just centersection off prop off remove seal and replace.
It does sound so easy don't it...:smile:
Doing it on Axel stands then I would think a day...
may get a gear box seal as well, will give it ago i think.
It was about the fourth time the prop was removed from the gearbox... funny though the seal when removed looked perfect.
like i say will give it ago. getting the engine back in last time was abit of an arse ache.
Agent Smith
21-04-2006, 20:01 22
shout if you need assistance!!!....
Im a t**t have found the cause of my problem or should i say derek has, turns out that i made the same mistake with the cams on the drivers side.
Torpoint1
22-04-2006, 22:42 00
Hope you get it sorted soon mate can imagine how hacked off you are
hopefully this will be it cant be anything else.
Torpoint1
22-04-2006, 22:54 38
Know you have been working on it along time especially seeing as we were half expecting to see you last sat at exmouth
hope doing this sorts your problems mate
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