Alan Jeffries Rolling Road

[SWS Test Account]

Hi everyone

to coincide with the pontins break i have booked a rolling road day for the 1st or 2nd of april at alan jeffreys in plymouth , he has just had a new 4wd dyno dynamics rolling road installed , looks really good as we went down and had a look yesterday :)

You don't have to be going to the pontins weekend to join in , same as , you dont have to come along if you dont want to even if you are on the pontins weekend :)

will let everyone know how much it will be as soon as i possibly can :) and will give out the definate date as soon as alan works out how many staff he would need in on the day etc :)


names down here please definates and provisionals please

1. Jaminrat - DEPOSIT PAID £10
2. JD -
3. Bob -
4. JK - DEPOSIT PAID £10
5. S.P/Ed -
6. Russ rb5317 -
7. Wideybrook -
8. Dspeed (prov) -
9. N Collins -
10. Rednick (if engine is run in and mapped) -
11.Reserved -
12.Jtaylor (prov)
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14.
15.
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18.
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20.


can everyone please take note there will be a £10 non-refundable deposit required to participate in this rolling road paid before february 25th 2006

[Broxi]

1. Jaminrat -DEPOSIT PAID
2. JD-
3. Bob -
4. JK - DEPOSIT PAID
5. S.P/Ed -
6. Russ rb5317 -
7. Wideybrook -
8. Dspeed (prov) -
9. N Collins -
10. Jack Lafitte -
11.Rednick- ( if engine is run in and mapped)
12.pimpalicous-
14Olly P-
15.provisional reservation for a plymouth member
16.
17.
18.
19.
20.
21.

[SWS Test Account]

1. Jaminrat -DEPOSIT PAID
2. JD-
3. Bob -
4. JK - DEPOSIT PAID
5. S.P/Ed -
6. Russ rb5317 -
7. Wideybrook -
8. Dspeed (prov) -
9. N Collins -
10. Jack Lafitte -
11.Rednick- ( if engine is run in and mapped)
12.pimpalicous-
14Olly P-
15.
16.
17.
18.
19.
20.
21.

[scoobyDAZZA]

bo11ox , can't make it , , its the same weekend as Long Marston
forgot that

[bob]

bo11ox , can't make it , , its the same weekend as Long Marston
forgot that

You did say that some time back... :hysterical:

[bob]

Excellant just what I will need a bit of a lie in Sunday....:happy0061:

[scoobyDAZZA]

You did say that some time back... :hysterical:


i did didn't i

:lol:

[pimpalicous]

1. Jaminrat -DEPOSIT PAID
2. JD-
3. Bob -
4. JK - DEPOSIT PAID
5. S.P/Ed -
6. Russ rb5317 -
7. Wideybrook -
8. Dspeed (prov) -
9. N Collins -
10. Jack Lafitte -
11.Rednick- ( if engine is run in and mapped)
12.pimpalicous-
14Olly P-
15.
16.
17.
18.
19.
20.
21.

[JACK LAFITTE]

lack lafitte id like to go to the rolling road day whens the next meet so i can pay as ive only just joined cheers

[Agent Smith]

join us for pontins.

[Olly P]

1. Jaminrat -DEPOSIT PAID
2. JD-
3. Bob -
4. JK - DEPOSIT PAID
5. S.P/Ed -
6. Russ rb5317 -
7. Wideybrook -
8. Dspeed (prov) -
9. N Collins -
10. Jack Lafitte -
11.Rednick- ( if engine is run in and mapped)
12.pimpalicous-
14Olly P-
15.
16.
17.
18.
19.
20.
21.

[Agent Smith]

could be unlucky Olly, number 13.

[Olly P]

Nah, lets throw caution to the wind and see what happens!

[Agent Smith]

spare engine on standby Olly?

[scoobyDAZZA]

spare engine on standby Olly?


you mean gearbox :tongue:

[Agent Smith]

put the claws away Dazza. :lol:

[Olly P]

Neither, just the confidence in the guys that built the engine.
Identical bottom ends are being run in the states at 440 wheel horsepower.
Gearbox is down to the driver (obviously)
Dazza do you want a proper 2 litre rebuild, good for 380/380? 2.5k + vat fitted!!!
Or you can upgrade the pistons and rods for about 700squids to get 400/400

[Agent Smith]

bigger turbo needed.

[Olly P]

Of course, thats what the block is rated to.
All day everyday.:biggrin:

[Agent Smith]

what about the newage STI?

[Olly P]

I'm not sure to be honest.
I would have thought you already have a crossdrilled crank and steel rods.
So it would just be pistons and the rebuild itself.
I'll ask what they would recommend.

[Agent Smith]

more money..mmmmmmmmmmmm

[bob]

Cannot remember paying anything for this Lou.. Is deposit required or as we are at Pontins will we pay there and then.

[wideybrook]

OOPS forgot to mention, the company name is enginetuner Ltd, and cheques should be made to enginetuner Ltd, his name is Alan Jeffery, so I would expect any cheques you have should be OK.

[Agent Smith]

1. Jaminrat -DEPOSIT PAID
2. JD-
3. Bob - cheque on way
4. JK - DEPOSIT PAID
5. S.P/Ed -
6. Russ rb5317 -
7. Wideybrook -
8. Dspeed (prov) -
9. N Collins -
10. Jack Lafitte -cheque on way
11.Rednick- ( if engine is run in and mapped)
12.pimpalicous-
14Olly P-
15.provisional reservation for a plymouth member
16.
17.
18.
19.
20.
21.
put me down for this one...........PM address n i'll send cheque your way.....

[Agent Smith]

woohoo

[bob]

Paypal Lou?

[scoobyDAZZA]

how many can he do ?

i may be back on for this now :)

put me down as a maybe plz

[scoobyDAZZA]

i'll be there but won't be running

daz

[Russ RB5 317]

May not be able to make this one will let you know Lou

[bob]

can everyone have a think about getting their deposits in as this is only a couple of weeks away now

Is there no one living near lou that has a Paypal account?

[bob]

i have paypal , but it wont let me take funds out or move them to our bank account lol

Have you registered your bank details with Paypal and had the two amounts put in your account to confirm account details?

[phill-type-r]

Louise, is this ok to do possibly on the day or would I need to make a booking?

[bob]

Louise, is this ok to do possibly on the day or would I need to make a booking?

Would be a good RR for you phill... I hear you also get readout of fueling and boost...:cool:

[phill-type-r]

Might be an idea to do this one then mate :) Still got that oxygen sensor gone :( Should hopefully getting this sorted at the weekend.

Nobby has given me a few upgrade routes, could I run them by you to see what you think?

[bob]

More mods....:eek: :eek: Thought you were going to stop the spending...:hysterical: :hysterical: The misses will soon take you under her wing..:hysterical: :hysterical:
Best put it in technical M8...

[phill-type-r]

Well not so much more mod's, just trying to find out about the mod's I wanted to do and the mod's before the re-map, hoping to get as much done as poss... (but not going mental!!)

Oh she'll slap my legs and so on I'm sure... But these are things I want to do to make the car run safer and 'freer'...

Off to technical I go.... :wink:

[j900ase]

Hi Louise, and everybody. My cars back every thing seems ok, so if theres still a place can i come and play.

How do i pay? on the day or send you some money now.

Thanks Jase.

[gavo]

hi any chance of getting a place and if i can where do i need to send the deposit.

[phill-type-r]

thanks Louise, will try and send the cheque asap :)

[gavo]

will send the cheque down this week.

[j900ase]

Thanks lou will send you cheque asap.

[SWS Test Account]

Louise I doubt if my car will be ready in time for pontins we may bring Angies car if its not so I very much doubt if I will be going on the rollers this time:sad-smiley-046:

[Agent Smith]

thats a shame nick, parts all not back yet?

[wideybrook]

Any chance of an update on the numbers Lou, might have another interested Scooby owner

[Broxi]

Bigals tells me that the new rolling road is raised?

is this right?

If so can low cars get on it?

[SWS Test Account]

thats a shame nick, parts all not back yet?

No mate bloody work commitments have got in the way of my play time and I doubt if I can get it all back together in time all ive got at the moment is loads of really clean sparkly bits in my workshop , i just keep looking at them in awe ,coz when fitted they will never be seen again( hopefully)
I did think about turning the new flywheel into a wall clock its that dammed sexy, and the ARP head studs are to die for, now i think i need a cold shower:hysterical:

[N_Collins]

Hi

Can you take me off the list as I don't have the RB5 anymore

[stormperformance.co.uk]

Bigals tells me that the new rolling road is raised?

is this right?

If so can low cars get on it?

Low cars are no problem.

[bob]

Just like Scoobyclinic then...Mine is very low and had no problems...:confused:

[Agent Smith]

No mate bloody work commitments have got in the way of my play time and I doubt if I can get it all back together in time all ive got at the moment is loads of really clean sparkly bits in my workshop , i just keep looking at them in awe ,coz when fitted they will never be seen again( hopefully)
I did think about turning the new flywheel into a wall clock its that dammed sexy, and the ARP head studs are to die for, now i think i need a cold shower:hysterical:

Really sorry to hear this, but they say good things come to those who wait.

(I dont know who they are though!)

[N_Collins]

:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

:eek:

no worries neil , didnt know you was even selling up lol

Nor did I it just kind of happened :eek:

I'll have another one but having a change for a little while

[stormperformance.co.uk]

Well its only a week to go, and I'm really looking forward to it.

AJ + Martyn had another dyno day there today, pug club, first 3 cars were down on power, and the next 3 right on the button or slightly up.

First 3 cars all had the bolt on induction kits - say no more!

[elowarr]

Any room for a couple of spectators? Thinking we might drive up for a nose if thats ok :biggrin: :biggrin:

[bob]

Spectators are always welcome at any of our events....:smile:

[JACK LAFITTE]

looking forward to the day any 1 driving up from newquay if so give us a shout an meetup some where before an is any 1 going to tour of cornwall rally at pentewwan sands got invite from vospers should be a laugh see u all soon

[scoobyDAZZA]

i'll be running now
already paid via A.J himself :)

[cyberfella]

Will be there too. Haven't paid yet, but am over AJ's tomorrow morning anyway so will pay them then when they fit my downpipe for me (wahoo!). If there's no spaces left, I'll still pop over to be sociable and see the brum-brums. ha ha.

[scoobyDAZZA]

simon will be coming in the fiesta
obviously alan will have the rollers set up for 4-wd but if he could squeeze in at the end he'd like to see what it's running

daz

[cyberfella]

Will be there too. Haven't paid yet, but am over AJ's tomorrow morning anyway so will pay them then when they fit my downpipe for me (wahoo!). If there's no spaces left, I'll still pop over to be sociable and see the brum-brums. ha ha.

Popped over this avvo and handed him £30. See y'all Sun-deee. :action-smiley-065:

[stormperformance.co.uk]

Hi every one!

To save lots of time and help you to get the best results possible from the Dyno Day could you please fill out this form http://www.wrx.co.uk/images/DYNO FORM.pdf , it will help AJ and Martyn to know what is expected of the cars before the runs starts, vital information considering the number of modified cars that should turn up. Spare forms will be available on the day.

[Agent Smith]

The froms have been printed and are bein distributed this eve at pontins.......anyone not at pontins don't worry i have spares.....

[JACK LAFITTE]

tryed going on to fill out the form for details but it wont open the page any 1 else had the same problem an is any 1 driving from around newquay to ajs tommorro cheers

[Agent Smith]

not a prob here mate....like i said i've got a load printed...will be handed out tomorrow at A.J's......

[stormperformance.co.uk]

Thanks very much Guys, I'm expecting some burnt faces tomorrow, very sunny here in Plymouth.

The form is an adobe pdf file, do you have the latest version on your PC?

[Agent Smith]

i'll bring me shorts then!!!:lol:

off to pontins now to hand out to whom requires them up there,cheers.keep the posts comin in..

Ed.:action-smiley-065:

[Broxi]

I definatly Will NOT be their. :sad-smiley-046:

It is looking like i have bought a Duff engine. :annoying_cut: :annoying_cut: :annoying_cut:

[beachsleeper]

Super day out:smile: Very good set up.

[cyberfella]

I was glad I did it. Found out my car is running lean :annoying_cut:

I will get that sorted pronto. good power tho. up by 10 BHP on my last run after induction and downpipe mods, so happy with that. Thanks to AJ for working on a Sunday. Nice to see the other members in the flesh too. :action-smiley-065:

[Agent Smith]

mine was above standard........that'll do for now!!!!!....


watch this space...........

[Alan Jeffery]

That's the sneaky bit with your Scoobie! They like to run lean, but it isn't good for them, a bit like George Best and booze...
Beware the one that goes well for no good reason, especially version 5's...:wink:

[Agent Smith]

That's the sneaky bit with your Scoobie! They like to run lean, but it isn't good for them, a bit like George Best and booze...
Beware the one that goes well for no good reason, especially version 5's...:wink:

Confused!!.......


Meaning mine??:confused:

[Alan Jeffery]

No.. meaning the previous post! and any other Scoobie that runs lean...

[Agent Smith]

cheers.....

[Alan Jeffery]

My pleasure! Believe it or not, I still enjoy what I do very much, and it's much more fun to deal with enthusiasts than just your ordinary car owners.
You are most welcome anytime.

[EvoCarl]

so alan be honest, the fiesta was the most impressive car there right? :biggrin:

[Alan Jeffery]

But of course it was! I didn't feel the urge to actually want to take it home mind you... :lol:

Unlike the superb Island Visitor's car, which I would have stolen in a heartbeat..

[cyberfella]

No.. meaning the previous post! and any other Scoobie that runs lean...

Yeah, meaning mine scoobtastic, not yours :sad-smiley-046:

I took some leave from work today and replaced some dodgy looking rubber along the induction tract with some new, tightly fitting samco, cleaned inside every pipe, re-sealed and double checked every join from the MAF all the way back to the turbo itself, then changed my fuel filter out with a new one from Roger Clarke and finally put some STP injector cleaner in and topped up with super. Thats all I can do for the minute. My fuel pump is brand new anyway, I did that before the first dyno sesh and it ran rich back then, like it should.

I've been over and booked in for another run on the rollers with Martyn on Monday at 15:00. My fingers are crossed, but sods law it's the MAF.

Luckily, I live locally and don't have to go over atmospheric pressure, so the car won't get pushed again until this is all sorted.

[Agent Smith]

thank for a great day alan, but sorry the fraggle rocket is back home now.

[cyberfella]

Car now sorted. I put in new silicone hoses and ditched all the crappy old rubber so no extra un-metered air is getting in now. Also fitted inline fuel press gauge and a new fuel filter (already got new pump). Also fitted a new engine coolant temperature sensor. Spent 2 hours with Alan Jeffery this morning on the rolling road with 3 MAF sensors (2 of my own and one of AJ's) and ultimately drew the conclusion that my filter was flowing air along the inner surface of the pipe but not the centre leaving the MAF hot wire blissfully unaware of the flow of air (eye of the storm scenario). AJ is a legend for leaving me to my own car in between runs to faff about with induction kits and MAF's before running it up again and analyzing the outcome. Thanks AJ for your time, the following graphs (red before and blue after show my car is now running safer AFR, more power and excellent gain in the low to mid range). Note: this is not the result of mapping as my car runs a standard ECU. It proves the point that those who have fitted induction kits to imprezas need to get their arses down to alan and book some time with him to ensure their cars are happy with the mods made to them.

http://cyberfella.redirectme.net/Dyno_Dynamics_Diagnostics.jpg

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glad to hear its all ok mate

[Olly P]

Shouldn't the torque and bhp curves cross over at 5252rpm?:confused:
Thought that was part of the basic calculation and is set in stone so they should always be like that.
Oh btw, my induction kit is working perfectly well thanks.:biggrin:

[scoobyDAZZA]

i believe this is the way it is printed Olly for clearing viewing
i have seen an AJ graph where they crossed at 5250 ;)
does so much stuff that bloody rolling road
:lol:

[bob]

i believe this is the way it is printed Olly for clearing viewing
i have seen an AJ graph where they crossed at 5250 ;)
does so much stuff that bloody rolling road
:lol:

Should be 5252 as Olly says we have had this before at a few places. If its the Graphs not printing in the right places is the turbo also coming in earlier than it states or is that little bit right?:hysterical: :hysterical:


Shouldn't the torque and bhp curves cross over at 5252rpm?:confused:
Thought that was part of the basic calculation and is set in stone so they should always be like that.
Oh btw, my induction kit is working perfectly well thanks.:biggrin:

Your as thick as me Olly....:hysterical: :hysterical: Its not BHP/Torque crossing its before and after...

[stormperformance.co.uk]

(red before and blue after show my car is now running safer AFR, more power and excellent gain in the low to mid range).

Just to clarify further, the red line was taken at the SWS dyno day, and the blue one taken after the car was fixed.

Not sure about the BHP Torque lines crossing, thats depend on the scale of each graph? The 5250 calculation is 'set in stone' but if the right hand scale reaches above the top value then does the graph auto scale downwards? not sure if they should alway by consistant.

But then again what do I know, I still get confused between AFR being rich or weak! LOL

NEWS UPDATE... Just read though the Japerformance mag containing the Nissan 300ZX TT owners dyno day at Surrey Rolling Road (dyno dynamics) and all the BHP/Torque graphs cross at 5252.

[cyberfella]

The curves would cross at 235BHP at 5252 RPM if there was a single scale on the y axis representing both power and torque. however, there are two y axes and they are scaled differently too, to ultimately get a readable, presentable graph. red is before and blue after, so where you see them crossing just means that at that particular place in the rev range there is no difference.

Best we get our heads around these dyno graphs cos I dare say a few more will start appearing on here. its a great way (albeit a little geeky) to show off the fruits of your modding programme and remaps to your forum buddies. maybe it deserves it's own gallery? or maybe they should go in the existing gallery?? I dunno, you lot decide ;o)