Cyclists...?

[scoobywag]

Bit of a duel poll but same subject.

As far as cyclists go....

1) Does the majority make the minority look bad or the minority to the majority respectively?

And...

2) Should Cyclists do a riding test and have valid MOT, Tax and Insurance?

[SClarke]

I think I am more worried about all the car drivers with no MOT, tax and insurance.

[victim]

Bit of a duel poll but same subject.

As far as cyclists go....

1) Does the majority make the minority look bad or the minority to the majority respectively?

And...

2) Should Cyclists do a riding test and have valid MOT, Tax and Insurance?

Not entirely clear what you are getting at here but in my experience, myself included, most cyclists are competant and obey the highway code. It's the minority who jump traffic lights and/or pavements (switching from road users to pedestrians as it suits them). We only ever note or hear about the latter minority. No one ever comments on a sensible cyclist, just as no one ever comments on good driving, only bad.

As for MOT, tax, insurance:

Riding test - yes, absolutely. If you're going to cycle on the public road, you should demonstrate a minimum competance level and working knowledge of the highway code.

MOTs - these exist for motor vehicles because if unregulated, an unsafe vehicle poses a significant danger to other road users - this is rarely the case for bicycles,

Tax - there would be an arguement for levying tax on cyclists, were it require to support the cycling road/path infrastructure. However, considering road tax for cars; only a fraction of this is spent on roads, the rest goes to bolster the Exchequer and, we're told, to penalize us for carbon usage. On this basis there is no arguement for the taxation of cycling.

Insurance - many cyclists do chose to take out insurance for property loss and third party damage/injury, though these are in the minority. But again, considering 10% of cars on our roads are uninsured, difficult to persuade cyclists that they need to. Let's face it, motorists are a much greater threat to cyclists than vice-versa.

[Scooby2]

I dont have a problem with cyclists, its tractors and old biddies who hesitate at roundabouts, when its clear there is nothing coming that pees me off!

[scoobywag]

Quite right with your stats 'Victim' and a fair point. However, The sole point of pointing out the bad rather than the good is that the bad causes problems and poses a threat. The facts are there in the case that my car has been damaged by an UN-insured cyclist who chose to run of rather deal with the situation. Un-insured drivers are a problem 10% in millions of cars is a lot. BUT...if you take all the bikes on our roads and count the amount that have valid insurance im sure the percentage would be much greater than those of cars.

MOT's - However rare the occasion that an unsafe bike causes accidents this is still a problem. Having the fact that I work alongside the police closely with a relation to road accidents it is more likely/comman to be driver fault rather than the vehicle.

Tax - Altough (by your stats) a fraction goes towards the roads themselves do you not think that all who wish to use them to travel should pay towards the maintanence?

Insurance - As like the road fund license (tax) ALL who use the public highway should be insured accordingly.

The poll is to see what other peoples views are and how they relate to or see the situation.

Regards, scoobywag.

[harty6972]

CYCLIST.....CYCLIST.....what about the idiots that ride their dog meat ooops sorry horses on the road do they have to take a test ?...and what do they know about the high way code riding 2 a breast in the middle of the road. and all they do is shout at you and be dam nasty to you .....so before we pick
on the cyclist again we should look a bit closer at other road users. and what about all the:sign0187: they leave in the road . sure if we did it something would be said about it.


cheers

[scoobywag]

Hmmm....ok.

[chanz]

yeah i think horses should be MOT i seen loads of them not road worthy with worn shoes and they would easy fail emissions with that crap comin out the back!

[chris]

best place for them is on a bbq, horses that is lol

[scoobywag]

:sign0006::action-smiley-060:........lol

[chris]

ok then, cyclists as well,

[scoobywag]

haha...lol...thats better!

[chanz]

YEAH!

[scoobywag]

Yeah!

[chris]

yeah

[chanz]

YEAH!!!

[scoobywag]

...

[scoobywag]

no no no....I put a Cool logo thing and it didnt show!

[scoobywag]

:cool::cool::cool::cool::cool::cool:.

[chanz]

we have just resolved a major problem! we should be in government!

[scoobywag]

Oh yes...I see it now Me, you and chris joint PM!

[chanz]

yeah we will do better than wes brown or whatever his name is lol

[chris]

yeah lol

[scoobywag]

:lol: :love0030:......:sign0191:.....another blonde moment?

[scoobywag]

what we gona change first?

[chanz]

FUEL PRICES! and TAX! and INSURANCE! make it law that if you drive a scoob its a bundle deal of a pound! per year you just get a card to fill up for nothin! simple see!

got my vote already!

[scoobywag]

Agreed...then we must get those damn cyclists?lol

[chanz]

o yeah only cyclists that can do over the national speed limit and ride bikes that are same size as cars and look like cars are allowed on the road!

[chris]

yeah an we should be able to run them over when they get in the f***ing way, always ridingin the middle of the road,

[scoobywag]

amen!:love0030:

[scoobywag]

I would like to end the imigration problem by "Kicking the f**kers out!!!"

[chanz]

oh and they must have engines!


BUY A CAR!

[scoobywag]

Get out and stay out b*tches!:argun:

[scoobywag]

oh and they must have engines!


BUY A CAR!

:sign0191:

[chanz]

lol not all imigrants some are usefull some clean cars inside and out for a tenner! they can stay!

[scoobywag]

Well they are mostly polish and poland are in the EU...Zero Tolerance otherwise?

[chanz]

ok looks like your foriegn minister! lol

[scoobywag]

LOL... In that case all imigrants out...apart from Chanz car cleaning slave! and one for me!

[chris]

get them all out i say, :argun:

[scoobywag]

:lol:

[chanz]

yeah startin with one from okehampton lol

[scoobywag]

yeah startin with one from okehampton lol

Im lost now Boris. :confused:

[chris]

:lol::lol:

[chanz]

chris is from there lol infact hes the only one there

[chris]

an i live in a tree

[scoobywag]

:lol: :lol: Using our Country running power we must buy chris some neighbours... And they must all be fit...and naked! eh chris?

[chanz]

also we will make boost switches easier to use cause i heard they are a nightmare!

[chris]

thats a great idea, :party0010::party0010::party0010::party0010::banan amac::bananamac::ilreste:

[scoobywag]

Im off my leader friends...Hold the fort fellow Boris's!......:siesta:.......:takecare: :nightnight:

[chris]

catch u laters

[victim]

This started off as a serious thread and now look what you've done !

Muppets

:lol:

[chanz]

ha ha it still is serious!

[chris]

yeah, cyclist should be shot, lol

[victim]

n0b :hysterical:

[Scoobylove]

Bit of a duel poll but same subject.

As far as cyclists go....

1) Does the majority make the minority look bad or the minority to the majority respectively?

No I think most cyclists are ok.

2) Should Cyclists do a riding test

Definately....my son is a bus driver and a cyclist from another country decided to nip out in front of his bus and he killed him. Not only that he was not wearing a cycling helmet and clearly did not understand our highway code. my son is devistated and has recieved loads of councelling, it wasn't his fault ...but you try telling him that.

as for the rest no i dont think they should pay road tax..cost a lot of them use the pavements :redface:

and have valid MOT, Tax and Insurance?

[chris]

i was stoped at the lights once a some tit on a bike stopped next to me an lent on the side of my car, (really ****ed me of) so 8 drove forward a bit, (hopeing he'll fall of) i got out to av a go an he buggered off, lol,

[bob]

I see we got a few golds for cycling....:innocent0009::innocent0009:

[chris]

:lol::lol::lol:

[chanz]

lol yeah that shut us up

[chris]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04P46zGGSI4&feature=related

[chanz]

ha ha that was one of the american olympic cyclists in a regional heat!

[chris]

:lol::lol::lol:

[bob]

That hurts.....:biggrin:

[Alan Jeffery]

What's a Cyclist? What's a Motorist?
I've got cars, and horses, and bikes!
We tend to assume that if someone is using a transport method, then that's all they use.
I once caught some chaps out who made that mistake..
Liz and I were walking through Ivybridge, when a red Metro went past, and we both felt water splashing over us. I realised we'd been had with a water gun. My Range Rover was parked opposite, so we got in it, and headed off towards Plymouth. 100 yds further on, I saw the Metro heading back towards us. I picked up an old plastic drink bottle I'd had kicking around in the car for months and whipped the cap off. It was strawberry flavour, and disgustingly sticky and horrible, which is why I hadn't drunk it. I waited until the car got level with us, then squeezed the entire contents right in the driver's face at eye level, only barely maintaining control of my vehicle due to pi$$ing myself laughing.
He'd made the mistake of assuming we were pedestrians, instead of somebody who actually owned a car! silly boy...
My view.
If you see a Cyclist, it could be me, so give me room
If you see a Horserider, it could be my Wife, so give her room or she'll sort you out pronto.
If you see an Evo 6, forget it sunshine, you won't catch me!

[chanz]

if you see an evo block him!! there worse than cyclist lol

[chris]

lol, he wont do that again, f ing metro drivers, lol

[Alan Jeffery]

I didn't stop laughing for several days, he must have been soaked in the stuff.
As to Evo v Impreza, Martyn and I would be having a needle match, if he didn't tune them all!

[scoobywag]

So the minority it is then.?

[chris]

had a load of cyclist come riding passed me today when i was tarmacing, was tempted to put the end of my rake thou his spokes of his front wheel, then drive over his bike with the roller, lol

[chanz]

had a load of cyclist come riding passed me today when i was tarmacing, was tempted to put the end of my rake thou his spokes of his front wheel, then drive over his bike with the roller, lol

lol y not just roll the rider aswell

[chris]

lol, yeah good point,

[dougie06n]

so it would be Hoy and Kenny the only two cyclists on the British roads if you two got elected.

[chanz]

no they not allowed on roads lol

they just race!

[scoobywag]

think ive been forgotten from our gov take over plan here?

[chris]

this bloke has the right idea lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IB-GegfmBMI

[scoobywag]

foookin hell...what a guy.

[scoobywag]

look at this one chris.... :lol:
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=4mCIwIs2TbY&feature=related

[scoobywag]

no no no...this one!:sign0191::sign0191::sign0191:
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=idO31X7xAzQ

[chris]

:lol::lol: class

[scoobywag]

See we dont need to get rid of them...they'l do it themselves!

[chris]

ha ha ha ha silly t**t, love it

[scoobywag]

haha.... http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=EO0xu3LrYoM

[chris]

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

ok this is a motor bike, but its funny as f**k
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkEoW5Z9Qbs&feature=related

[scoobywag]

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=NuMzrsB-ABU&feature=related

Mwahahaha

[scoobywag]

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

ok this is a motor bike, but its funny as f**k
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkEoW5Z9Qbs&feature=related

HAHAHA....:sign0191::sign0191::sign0191:

[dougie06n]

ok just to warn you i am out on my bike tomorrow plymouth, tavistock, callington and back to plymouth 32miles i think, sorry in advance, stay out my way lol

[scoobywag]

Cars VS a bike.... Its young ones but still funny!:innocent0009::fighting0092:

[scoobywag]

ok just to warn you i am out on my bike tomorrow plymouth, tavistock, callington and back to plymouth 32miles i think, sorry in advance, stay out my way lol

Hey I take my hat off to sencible cyclists...have a good ride!:smile::eclipsee_steering:

[chris]

hope it rains, lol only joking, enjoy ur ride

[dougie06n]

Hey I take my hat off to sencible cyclists...have a good ride!:smile::eclipsee_steering:
thanks very much will try as i am off to germany on sunday to some more, along with canoeing, hillwalking and climbing.

[dougie06n]

hope it rains, lol only joking, enjoy ur ride
it probably will rain, it has for the last two weeks of my holiday, apart from today and a bit of yesterday.

[scoobywag]

thanks very much will try as i am off to germany on sunday to some more, along with canoeing, hillwalking and climbing.

Fair shout mate, sounds good...I hope all goes well.:gallop:......:biggrin:

[scoobywag]

You have got to see this....
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=XyGlZ3LbkgU:happy0005::happy0005::happy000 5:

[chris]

ha ha, that must of hurt

[dougie06n]

that looks very sore

[scoobywag]

that looks very sore

like this...
http://www.southwestscoobies.org.uk/sws_imagehosting/thum_122448aeed93193cd.jpg (http://www.southwestscoobies.org.uk/vbimghost.php?do=displayimg&imgid=1309)

[dougie06n]

yes that two, well i done 36.7 miles and stayed on and did not **** off any cars, seen a WR1 04 plate between gunnislake and callington

[chris]

nice one, think u picked a good day for it, weathers been great,

[scoobywag]

Sounds good mate, hope you enjoyed it

[dougie06n]

yes it was good thanks bit stiff today after i helped my mate lay 40 ton of concrete for building bass.

[scoobywag]

ouch...If its any consolation I relaxed all day....but have to journey to wales tomorrow to inspect a lorry involved in a fatal accident